Ergonomics – Creating a Safe Workstation

Posted on 2011/10/27 at 08:23 by daarken 74 Comments

Keeping safe and healthy is one of the most important things as a digital artist. Creating good habits early on can save you a lot of trouble and pain many years down the road. In this video Daarken will show you how to create an ergonomic workstation to minimize strain and ways to prevent it.

Workrave
AntiRSI
iClubby

Update – It has been brought to my attention that there was a studying showing that sitting straight is bad for your back. Here is the link to the article if you are interested.

74 Comments on "Ergonomics – Creating a Safe Workstation"

  1. Ages · 2011/11/11 at 08:56 · Reply

    The carpletunnel stuff sounds dreadful, Does it really affect you in the end? or does it just sound bad?

    Ive drawn for many many years, and im not sure what the signs of something like that are. i also play alot of pc games too. Ive always drawn at an angle too, it seems like drawing straight might affect the way that i make things?

    I have a bamboo, is there a really a difference with the Intuos? and im not sure about the hand thingies. never used those either, but it could probably help having a more smooth flow

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:33 · Reply

      Yes, Carpal Tunnel definitely has an affect. There are several different problems that I encounter with Carpal Tunnel. One is neuropathy. Basically it is nerve damage that sort of feels like your wrist/fingers/hand is asleep. You lose feeling, but at the same time it hurts. It is kind of hard to explain. There is also shooting pain that goes through your wrist/fingers as well as a burning pain. Sometimes it can be hard to hold your stylus.

      Oh yes, I noticed a huge difference when I tried the Bamboo. The levels of pressure is significantly different, plus since they are much smaller (at least the ones I used as compared to my Intuos) so they are mapped differently to the monitor and therefore react differently when you use them. If you are using a small area to draw on a large monitor, the slightest movement of your hand causes a huge movement on the screen, if that makes sense. The lack of shortcut keys was also a problem, but I think the new Bamboo tablets have keys on them.

      • Ages · 2011/11/11 at 08:39 · Reply

        Yes, they have a few keys. I got to try one that a family member had for a while before returning, it had a textured surface to make it feel like you were drawing on paper. i really loved the feeling of that one but i hear it wears the pen nibs out alot?

        • daarken
          daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:20 · Reply

          Yeah, nibs on the Intuos 4 run out very quickly. I had to change mine out after one week of painting. I actually talk about it in an upcoming video.

  2. Warren Jerzyszek · 2011/11/11 at 04:35 · Reply

    Cheers for this, totally missed it. I was going to set up an alarm on my mac to prompt me when to take breaks, but this program seems a lot better.

  3. Steffen · 2011/11/11 at 05:35 · Reply

    Yes, the new Bamboo have express keys which you can set as you want to. I have a large Intuos 4 at home, but it’s kind of difficult moving it around. Bamboo comes quite handy thou.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:25 · Reply

      Yeah, I use an Intuos 3 for the same reason. Sometimes the Intuos 4 is just too large and cumbersome.

  4. Vito Lario · 2011/11/11 at 05:40 · Reply

    Thanks a lot for the tips! Using Nostromo and it is great.

  5. Telohs · 2011/11/11 at 06:17 · Reply

    Hey darken, really nice site you got here! Thanks for sharing stuff.

    Also, I was wondering if you had any advice for Cintiq users?
    When I draw I sit with my head bent downwards the Cintiq. You wouldn’t happen to know if that’s a bad thing, Considering your advice on having monitor at head-level, at least by the looks of your illustration of sitting-position.

    Thanks!

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:21 · Reply

      Thanks! Unfortunately I do not have any advice for Cintiq users because I have never used a Cintiq before, so I can’t really talk about how to position them or what is the best way to sit when using them. Sorry about that!

  6. Eludor · 2011/11/11 at 07:47 · Reply

    Made me laugh how you said “Oh yeah, I need one of those things” with the picture of this chair from outta space.

    Oh, and in Germany we say “Handy” for “Mobilephone” ;).

    Haven’t seem much people showing WHY they’re having their workplace like it is. But I saw a lot pics of workdesks.
    Nice you explained this.

    All the stuff you’re showing makes me think of the costs.

    Sure it isn’t expensive like one of those “spacechairs”, but those are also tools wich pushes the price in the 3 digit range.

    And since the Bamboo was mentioned… I’m also using a Bamboo. It’s A5 sized and I think an older model.

    Yeah there are not much buttons on it, but I for example don’t use them anyway. I’ve got one hand on the keyboard and the other logicly on the pen.
    Made all the shortcuts in lower-left corner of the keyboard, so I don’t have to move much. (though there are some shortcuts like ctrl+L which are a bit hard to reach.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:30 · Reply

      Tools are very important if you want to be a professional artist. If you are planning on being a professional artist, spending a few hundred dollars on a tool that you will use every day is a very minimal cost. You don’t HAVE to have the best tools, but better tools usually mean more efficiency, more accuracy, more time saved, and more money to be made. These tools are actually incredibly cheap when compared to other professions. Just look how much a professional grade camera is :). Plus they are tax deductible!

  7. Martin · 2011/11/11 at 08:11 · Reply

    Haha i laughed at the iclubby part! Awesome website man, thanks for doing this! I can tell I’m gonna be spending a lot of time on here from now on.

  8. Jioruji-Derako · 2011/11/11 at 08:41 · Reply

    I’ve had my tablet off slightly to the side for a while now (primarily due to lack of anywhere else to put it), and it definitely is a lot more comfortable when you don’t have to reach across or to the side to get at it. Never really thought about it in ergonomic terms, so it’s really good to hear the info.

    By any chance, would you have (or plan to take) images of your own workspace? I’m quite curious to see how you yourself put all this stuff into practice, and no doubt there are plenty of others who would love to have a peek, as well.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:32 · Reply

      It is funny you mention that, because in this months issue of ImagineFX there is an article about my workstation, complete with pictures! I actually don’t really work at a desk anymore, partly due to the problems it causes with my wrists. Most of the time I work on my tablet pc.

      • Jioruji-Derako · 2011/11/12 at 10:27 · Reply

        Awesome stuff! Which issue would that happen to be? (ImagineFX’s website is a little vague as to which issue is this month’s.)

        I used to have a convertible tablet/notebook (until the hinge broke, turning it into a stationary notebook with a non-functional tablet screen), but it was definitely a lot of fun to use.
        The issue I always had with it was the screen; the colors are hard to get right, since it can’t quite ever be bright enough (work I do on my desktop always looks a bit different on my laptop). Do you have any issues with your tablet’s colors, or any particular tricks you had to do to get the colors to look right?

        • daarken
          daarken · 2011/11/12 at 11:47 · Reply

          Actually, I have no idea because I haven’t seen it myself. The other day someone posted about reading the article, so I assume it is the newest one.

          Color calibration between computers/monitors is always a challenge for digital artists. I have a lot of friends that spend hours and hours trying to calibrate everything, but you can’t always get them to be perfect. Plus you have no control over how other people view your work since everyone has different computers/monitors. One way is by getting a monitor calibration tool. I have a Huey Pro. I used to use it a lot on my PC, but to be honest, I almost never have to calibrate Mac monitors. Mac monitors are really great. You might also want to check which profile you use in Photoshop. I always use the sRGB profile. It is supposed to be more compatible across different monitors. The colors/contrast on my tablet pc is pretty accurate, but I think when I switch to my desktop the contrast is pumped up a bit more and there is a bit more saturation, but not much. I pretty much never have problems when I go to print though. Again, it depends on the client and their printing methods, but for the most part I have never had any problems.

        • daarken
          daarken · 2011/11/12 at 23:28 · Reply

          Well I went to the bookstore today to see if I could find the issue, but the newest issue they had didn’t have me in it…so I dunno if the issue hasn’t come out yet in the US or what.

          • cdcant · 2011/12/15 at 15:09 ·

            You’re in issue 77, the Christmas issue!

            Also, I want to say thanks for the info on the Fujitsu Stylistic; I’d been pining after the newer Asus EP121 which has comparable specs, but a £900 price tag. The Fujitsu is actually within my price range, and looks to be pretty awesome. So again, cheers for pointing it out to me :D

  9. Grigor · 2011/11/11 at 08:46 · Reply

    Just to mention that if this wrist supporter sock-like thing is too tight it will prevent your blood from circulating properly and it is probably even more dangerous because the blood keeps the body warm and heals it. So yea, this thing is probably good if u cant work without it but if one is healthy i guess this will bring only harm. If i am wrong just answer below and correct me because I dont want to mislead ppl, but that’s what I’ve been told about other joint problems. As for the timer program, i need one to remind me that the break is over hah, it’s not funny rly :S

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:24 · Reply

      Well, anything used improperly can be harmful to you. Taking too much medicine when you are sick can be harmful. You just need to use it correctly. Don’t make it too tight. If it feels uncomfortable, then just loosen it. There are some that don’t have straps, so just make sure to buy the correct size. Many times they have size charts on the box to help you decide which one to get. I would suggest getting one even if you don’t have carpal tunnel, purely as a preventative measure, but that is just my advice. Just be sure to use it properly.

  10. Bones · 2011/11/11 at 09:11 · Reply

    This makes me uncomfortable now, i got my cintiq three days ago and now I’m confused because this tablet will allways be right infront of you and not to your left or right, whichever your drawing hand is.

    Well christmas is coming up and i wanted a glove for my hand to protect the new tablet and keep my hands warm anyways x.x

    Do you have any other advice fo cintiq owners?

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 09:22 · Reply

      Unfortunately I do not have any advice for Cintiq users because I have never used one before, so I don’t feel qualified making any suggestions for how to use them properly. Sorry about that!

      • Bones · 2011/11/11 at 10:32 · Reply

        Thanks for your quick reply and this site in general :)

        You might want to try a cintiq when you see an opportunity too, for me drawing while looking somewhere else felt awkward even after several years of getting used to it.
        But i do also know from friends to be the other way round.

        Anyways thank you very much for everything you did so far and everything that is to come !

  11. Stephanie K · 2011/11/11 at 10:39 · Reply

    Hey Mike!

    I just wanted to let you know that I think you are a very generous person for taking the time and making this tutorial website for the world to see! I know you have had problems in the past with people selling your tutorials for their own benefit(want to kick their ass), but the fact that you have a free tutorial site makes you even MORE awesome!!!!!!!! I have the utmost respect for you!

    Tanks,

    Steph k.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 17:13 · Reply

      Haha, thank you so much!

  12. Carlos Arthur · 2011/11/11 at 11:19 · Reply

    I always used the right way and thought that was wrong, because when it gets a little to the side, kind of lost a little accuracy, and I thought not, has to be the front of the pc, because when we draw on paper paper tip just ahead of us …. Thanks 4 the tips

  13. Rickard Finndahl · 2011/11/11 at 11:59 · Reply

    Its really good that you care about ous and i preseate it alot! I have now change my positioning of my wacom tablet and it feels good. Keep it up man!

  14. Jordan · 2011/11/11 at 12:29 · Reply

    Thanks for the great information! The iclubby reminds me of the scene of the lead game programmer in the film “Grandma’s Boy”
    Pretty damn ridiculous workstation :)

  15. Judy · 2011/11/11 at 16:28 · Reply

    It is funny when you show the way we have to position the tablet in front of the computer because i thought i have to put it right in front/below the computer instead of on the side. Thanks a lot, from now and on i will change the position. Also I want to ask if besides the right way you tell us of how to sit and position the tablet, is there something we can use to protect the wrist/hand? Of course you mention somthing but as you said it is uncomfortable to draw, is there something else that you suggest to wear?

    Thanks,
    Judy

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 17:12 · Reply

      All I use are the Handeze gloves that I mentioned before and they seem to do the trick. You might want to try a few different ones to see which one you like the most. They aren’t that expensive and it is worth the money if you can save your wrists. I think taking frequent breaks is probably more important.

  16. pabgo · 2011/11/11 at 19:54 · Reply

    your drawing of the sitting figure is erect. i’ve read that it’s more beneficial if you lean back, i think it was 135 degreess (though i am not sure). i get lower back pain and can’t sleep at night. what kind of chair would you recommend.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/11 at 20:04 · Reply

      Really? I’ve always heard that it is bad to sit back. I dunno, the ergonomic specialist that came to my workplace was telling me you are supposed to sit upright. I would look for a chair that has the ability to change the height and angle of the back cushion, the height/angle of the arms, and the angle/position of the bottom cushion. From my own experience, working on the couch with my tablet pc is much better on my wrists.

  17. Micah Stone · 2011/11/13 at 15:11 · Reply

    Thanks for the info Daarken. There’s another free app you might try for the Mac called Time Out. I ran across it when I was having trouble getting an older version of AntiRSI to work. Something that’s nice about it is you can assign sounds when breaks start and stop allowing you to close your eyes or walk away from the computer and know when the times up. There’s also a fade in for the breaks you can control, so if you’re in the middle of a brushstroke you don’t get suddenly surprised by a break. You can see the breaks coming as the break screen starts to fade in.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/13 at 22:34 · Reply

      Oh awesome, I will definitely have to check that out. Thanks!

  18. Sarah · 2011/11/14 at 04:36 · Reply

    I just want to thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge! I really didn’t realise that carple tunnel was so bad or how easily you can get it.
    I’v been using my wacom of to one side for about a year now and it really does make life so much easier. I think I will be getting Workrave as I am totally terrible when it comes to taking a break and I have just ordered myself a nostromo :)

    Thanks!
    Sarah

  19. Grigor · 2011/11/15 at 14:52 · Reply

    http://muddycolors.blogspot.com/2011/11/studio-equipment-part-2.html Here is a link to what I just found and I thought that you and others as well, may find it useful so here i post it. This dude said he suffered from “repetitive wrist injuries” and then he saw that. Hope it helps

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/15 at 16:10 · Reply

      Oh nice! That is a great idea. I definitely have noticed a change since I started working in my lap as opposed to on a desk.

  20. Albert · 2011/11/18 at 17:15 · Reply

    Hello and Greetings from Sunny Greece.
    I liked your ergonomics setup video very much. I would like to add that i am personally using Logitech g13 and they are a VERY robust solution for a micro-keyboard ( has also cool mini-screen n stuff ) and the price tag aint bad either. ( goes around 70 euros here ). I am also using a gel-like wrist support in front of the micro keyboard , you know the ones with silicone in em and it helps if you put a non-slide surface beneath the wacom or whatever table you use so you dont have to put extra force on the wrist to keep it from moving.
    That’s all i guess ,felt like sharing with you lads! and daarken keep em coming!!!

  21. Justin S · 2011/11/21 at 22:54 · Reply

    awesome videos! huge fan! KEEP IT UP! :D

  22. Jes Schroeder · 2011/11/22 at 16:51 · Reply

    Great video! You wouldn’t happen to have a link to those wrist supports that you found, would you? I’ve had arthritis in both wrists, but so far I haven’t managed to find a wrist support that didn’t completely screw up my ability to work. Thanks!

  23. modellen bureau · 2011/11/23 at 01:58 · Reply

    It’s a nice blog you have over here! It’s very usefull information for me and I just want to thank you for that! If you post more threads as this one, I’ll follow your blog active!

  24. peza · 2011/11/25 at 09:00 · Reply

    my father has carpel tunnel, he randomly drops objects now scares me because this would mean that i would have a greater chance at getting it and if i lost my hand ability i would lose my life.

    thnxs for this daarken, you could have saved me my hands – i will buy some handeze :)

  25. solomon · 2011/11/29 at 00:28 · Reply

    hey daarken , what setting do you suggest for using work rave?
    thanks :D

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/11/29 at 00:30 · Reply

      Sorry, but unfortunately I have never used work rave before. I pretty much only work in Photoshop.

  26. Robby Johnson · 2011/11/29 at 20:18 · Reply

    Hey Daarken,

    Thank you so much for putting this site up, I’m always on the lookout for more tutorials to watch, and I think I’ve watched the entire 8 parts of Liche Priest about 5 times!

    This Christmas I’ve been on the lookout for a nice tablet pc, and just read your post saying that you’re using one as your primary weapon these days. During my search all I have found is complaints from artists saying that all tablet PCs have horrible accuracy issues.

    So I was wondering, 1, what tablet pc do you use? 2, if it is less accurate, how do you compensate?

    Thanks again for the awesome site,
    Robby

  27. Robby · 2011/11/30 at 21:24 · Reply

    Just read your FAQ and found my answer!

  28. joel portillo · 2011/12/06 at 16:10 · Reply

    I’ve never even heard of the nostromo. I looked it up. Not bad. Are you going to stick with yours, hoping that lion will work the kinks out? I updated my system to lion, but now I’m thinking about reverting back to snow leopard.

  29. Ryan · 2011/12/10 at 12:57 · Reply

    Hey. Great video. I have a question for you :)

    If a nostromo is not available, how do you work around not being able to reach the keys on your tablet if you place the tablet at the right side like you suggested?

    Thank you.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/12/10 at 13:25 · Reply

      You could always move your keyboard over and use that. I’m not saying you have to move your tablet over, I’m just passing on the knowledge from an ergonomic expert that evaluated my workstation.

  30. Jackomack · 2011/12/14 at 13:16 · Reply

    Do you have a link or specific brand name (or a few?) for the Ergo gloves? I found the Wacom Smudge Guard gloves, but those don’t appear to be anything more than gloves for anti-smudge, anti-sweat, etc.

    • daarken
      daarken · 2011/12/14 at 13:28 · Reply

      Handeze is the one I mentioned in the video.

      • Jackomack · 2011/12/14 at 14:25 · Reply

        Ha, thanks!

        I was looking for Handies and Handees and other generic searches.

        • Jackomack · 2011/12/14 at 14:41 · Reply

          Also, will likely come in handy for my job in IT (and would have been great for the last 9 years in IT too :P)

      • Jackomack · 2011/12/15 at 08:55 · Reply

        You can delete that previous post, I had a spat of inspiration. I can just get a laptop lap desk.

  31. Pandora · 2012/03/16 at 17:13 · Reply

    I don’t quite understand why do we have to take break that often ? Is it important for our health or rather helps us improve our progress rate ?

    • daarken
      daarken · 2012/03/16 at 17:17 · Reply

      Yes, it is for health related issues. If you spend 15 hours a day drawing with no breaks and do that for years, you will develop some pretty bad problems. Like I said, I had carpal tunnel in both wrists and cubital tunnel in my left arm by my early 20s.

  32. shahan · 2012/04/09 at 15:05 · Reply

    Hey just discovered this site through ctrl+paint, these videos are great! Thanks a a lot.

    About the tablet position, since i’m left handed I am now keeping it to the left of my monitor rather than centered in front of me.
    I totally agree with this and I hope more people become aware of this it really helps and wasn’t intuitive to me initially lol, to do that.

    so this my setup: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff241/spacecoyote7/Untitled-1-2.png
    my laptop is hooked up to a bigger monitor.

    i have an ‘L’ desk and what i tried to show in the drawing is that also counter intuitive to me is that rotating the tablet twoards me feels weird. or is this just something i’ll get over?
    any other specifics like… does putting the tablet on an angle help or something?

    • daarken
      daarken · 2012/04/18 at 09:19 · Reply

      Putting the tablet at an angle like that will not change anything because it doesn’t affect the input or what is shown on screen. It isn’t like rotating your paper. In fact, rotating your tablet like that will end up making it really difficult to paint because everything will be off. For example, if you have your tablet rotated and you move left and right, your cursor on screen will actually more northwest and southeast instead of west and east.

      • shahan · 2012/04/19 at 11:58 · Reply

        yeah you’re totally right! that’s interesting… so now i keep it parallel with my keyboard, or rather straight flush with my monitor screen.
        i’ve had the chance to look around more on this site, you’ve done some really awesome work daarken i appreciate it, thank you!

        So you know how with drafting tables they’re elevated on an angle? like on a 45 degree angle… i guess that only helps with cintiqs or on screen pen tablets? i was thinking about how with since the intuos is separate from the screen its a different dynamic. what’s more ergonomic with a cintiq type pen tablet?

        on a side note (since this is the internet) i just saw ‘The Raid – Redemption’ it…was ..AWESOME!

  33. mellacita · 2012/05/19 at 12:26 · Reply

    First off, thanks for all the great videos. They are really helping me out. You rock!

    Secondly, I was seriously considering getting the Nostromo, but I was unsure if it would work well for using multiple simultaneous keys, since I use multiple keys on the keyboard to make multiple shortcuts.

    Does it work much like a keyboard in that you can press down multiple keys at once? For example, if I want to map Ctrl+Shift and F to two separate buttons, does that work well? Or would you suggest getting a mouse with multiple keys and setting modifier keys there (like the Razer Naga)?

    I have a feeling I just need to try it out, but I wanted to ask since this product looks pretty rad. Thanks again!

  34. Francisco G. · 2012/09/19 at 23:42 · Reply

    I thing I noticed you never mentioned at all! Do some excercise. Even simple pushups will help you develop arm, hand, finger and muscle strenght, helping you prevent all sorts of problems. I have been using computers (mouses) and wacoms for YEARS, and I thankfully have never been affected by these illnesses, and it’s not like i’m the fittest person ever either. Do your excercie people!

  35. la1uc · 2013/03/30 at 17:17 · Reply

    Hello daarken,

    I’m really glad I found this and the next video, since lately I’ve been working very hard, trying to improve and whatnot, and suddenly some weird pains started to happen. Not to often or too strong though, but enough to notice. Also I was wondering if you ever had problems with your back or area around shoulder blade (i feel pain and weirdness there all the time I know I should probably go see a doctor but I don’t wanna) :D don’t want to be poked by needles or shockwaved (yikes). I will however set up my workplace a bit more carefully after watching this and I will definitely start taking brakes. Since I’m just about the same age as you were when you got the nasty syndrome and since it sounds really REALLY bad I’m just gonna have to live with the idea that working too much CAN in fact hurt you. As much as I don’t like it, I’ll do it. :) Thanks again for sharing! I greatly appreciate it + this site is awesome. I always learn something new or find something that helps me with my work.

    I wish you all the best and hope that you get the big room with the ball thingy someday!

    luka

    • daarken
      daarken · 2013/03/30 at 17:36 · Reply

      Yeah sometimes I get shoulder and back pain, but not as much since I don’t work at a desk anymore. I usually work sitting on the couch now. I hope your pains don’t get any worse!

  36. Melissa · 2013/06/11 at 11:36 · Reply

    Hi, I’ve been looking at all you videos and the really helped me out a lot! Also this one was very helpful, but still there is another question bothering me

    When i was 14 I spend a lot of time on the computer and my eyes got really bad and now I have to wear glasses, the doctor says that this did not come from spending my time in front of the monitor, but I still do not believe it.

    And my question is did this also affect your eyesight? Or do you have a special trick, like changing the brightness on your monitor, or drawing in an bright room ?

    .. i always fear that my eyesight is getting worse when I spend more than 1 1/2 hours in front of the computer

    • daarken
      daarken · 2013/06/11 at 12:19 · Reply

      I never have any problems with my eyes from working on the computer. I actually had to get glasses back when I was in the 3rd grade, so I don’t think computers caused it. Both of my parents have bad eyesight and both of my sisters need corrective lenses. Also, I have been working professionally for the past 9 years working anywhere from 60-120 hours/week on a computer, and that doesn’t include the number of hours I spend playing video games or watching movies. My prescription virtually hasn’t changed in the past 10 years. Now that doesn’t mean other people won’t be affected and I’m not a doctor, I’m just sharing my own personal experience.

  37. NinjaMonkeyBrain · 2013/12/05 at 04:45 · Reply

    Hey first off thanks for the video and advice. Just wondering do you know if having the tablet raised at an angle much like a cintiq would be of any benefit long term or do you advise keeping the tablet flat on the table? Thanks

  38. Josh · 2013/12/14 at 22:44 · Reply

    great advice daarken!

    I do still have a question however about ergonomics when it comes to sitting. Is there a certain type of chair that you find works best. or any tricks you use like pillow behind the back etc..

    Thanks again for taking your time to enlighten us all with your very helpful tutorials :)

  39. musca · 2014/03/01 at 01:16 · Reply

    Thanks a lot for that, i’m currently experiencing some problem with my wrist. Everytime i spend too many hours drawing, i feel pain, and it takes days, or weeks of inactivity to calm down a bit. So i was looking for some advices regarding how to better setup my workstation and it helps a lot!
    I’ll try to find these kind of gloves too.
    Thank you for that.

  40. Richard Tobing · 2014/09/09 at 16:07 · Reply

    does it have to be a nostromo or will any old keypad work?

    • daarken
      daarken · 2014/09/10 at 19:19 · Reply

      You don’t have to use a Nostromo. I just like it because it is compact and feels nice.

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